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The New World Order's avatar

I cannot find anything that I disagree with. For practical purposes, should the reactionary right seriously attempt to train young artists? Because I see a lot of people talking about how good the ancient greek art is, but I don't see potential to do anything other than replicate it at best, and to copy what has already been done, at best a second watered down renaissance, I just don't see potential to make something new and better or really originality. This comes back to philosophy, I really only see ideas regurgitated from Italian Elite Theory, and other 19th century sources, nothing that truly equals it. That's the blackpill. But I guess we just have to do good enough, and as you said, beating corporate sterilised crap today isn't hard.

I guess again, this comes back to the idea that the left fears beauty, and why they have disdain for men going to the gym. Because the don't want the right to have superior asthetics, and it is this reason that has resulted in young men turning away from the left, and once young men do in large enough numbers, I hope to God young women follow and then that's a path to victory.

Still though, even from a rational perspective looking back at my experiences and arguments with lefties, I still want to think that I can seed doubt, just a little so that the dam eventually cracks, but it never seems to work. I remember seeing a video by the distributist that said we should attempt this approach and simply ask questions to sow doubt. Do you think that approach is still worthwhile, and at some point when someone is close enough in worldview, do you then attempt debate? At what point is it useful to develop arguments and engage with others. Because even when I argue with someone else, and I cannot break them, convincing bystanders with arguments is still possible. Even though you will never convince commies, if a neutral is watching, you can still potentially sway them.

Fascinating stuff as usual.

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I think you hit a very important core regarding emotionality in political discourse and development. It also reminds me of the discussion surrounding the heritability of political leanings. I however would disagree slightly in so far as there are some issues I believe one (or maybe just some) can be convinced on. Though of course this requires one to not be too invested in them and for them to not be strongly associated with other opinion clusters. Therefore they probably lack quite a bit of importance making the distinction at least practically moot.

On a personal note: Back in school I wish we had actual debate clubs where one could have engaged in it regularly. We only held debates now and then but it was always fun. You connecting your experiences with debate (especially arguing in favor of opinions one doesn't hold) with the topic of emotionality in politics makes me think of the old Trivium. That part of education might have really opened more people up to this idea or reality compared to today.

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